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Post by Emerald on Jul 1, 2004 0:26:51 GMT 11
yup! if you didn't know, thats the title of the next Harry Potter Book! How exciting...
According to J.K.Rowlings website (it's very good http://www.jkrowling.com) the Half Blood Prince is neither Harry or Voldemort... I wonder who it is?
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Post by Dameon on Jul 1, 2004 10:54:54 GMT 11
NOT Voldemort, ay!!!
Hmmm...
So who's Halfblood??
Ron is pure. Malfoy is pure. Hermione is all muggle and she's female anyway. Neville is pure.
I just had a look at the site (it's a great site) and it also reveals that there are many clues in Chamber of Secrets about the Half Blood Prince's identity. I've GOT IT!!!
It's Dean Thomas!
I think...
I'll have to read CoS again, but I'm not doing anything else, so I'll read it and let you know.
KSL
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Post by Emerald on Jul 1, 2004 12:04:59 GMT 11
yeah thats who i was thinking about last night as i was tring to get to sleep...  |
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Post by Min on Jul 1, 2004 12:46:32 GMT 11
My vote is still on Hagrid - he's half giant! And wasn't his mother like a leader of some sort in the giant's ranks?
My friend Amie reckons it'll be a new character - JK likes to add new important characters every book, so yeah..
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Post by Megana on Jul 1, 2004 18:05:25 GMT 11
Hehe, I posted up in the Dining Hall about this too. For some reason, I think Colin Creevy is gonna make a come back, just from reading what Kayt said ablut there being clues in CoS. Can anyone remember if Colin is a half blood or not? It's slipped my mind.
And Dean Thomas is the Gryffindor guy in Harry's year, who exploded his eyebrows in the first movie, right? He's a half blood too. If the prince has been around since CoS, maybe he's one of the boys in Harry's year?
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Post by Dameon on Jul 1, 2004 18:26:50 GMT 11
I'm afraid Colin Creevey be Muggle-born, my dear.
So he's out of the running!!! THere was something I read on JK Rowlings site that makes me think it might be Dean Thomas. I've started reading CoS again, so I'll let ya'll know what I discover!!!
KSL
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Post by Bobbi on Jul 1, 2004 19:50:36 GMT 11
its so hagrid!! he in CoS alot, coz of all the stuff about the spider etc etc, and hes half blood too! half giant anyway. and who would be a prince out of the wizards in harry's year anyway. none of them are royal as far as i know!!! but hagrid....well what if the giant side of his family is royal?? he went back to where the giants are in the 4th or 5 th book didnt he, so maybe he finds out hes a prince!!!! its MUST be hagrid!!!
HAGRID FOR HALF BLOOD PRINCE!!!!
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Post by talisha on Jul 1, 2004 23:36:24 GMT 11
If it mean Literally Prince, then I'm saying that there is an introduction of a new character, possibly the new DADA teacher will be the one they speak of...
Every book a new character is introduced, and obviously more will be in this book, I think it's gonna be a newbie, or someone that has been mentioned ever so briefly that we wouldnt even think about it twice, like Sirius was in bk 1.
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Post by Megana on Jul 2, 2004 10:20:12 GMT 11
Quite possably, but I think I'm thinking along the same lines as Kayt about Dean Thomas. I read the site as well last night, and JK Rowling has so much history worked out for someone who is only a minor character. My money is on it being someone we already know, but may have overlooked. There will be new characters, as with every book, but I don't think that a new character will be the prince.
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Post by Elspethseeker on Jul 2, 2004 15:18:13 GMT 11
The half blood prince is interesting since there is not really any royalty of the wizarding world. Hmmm i am still lost at who it could be maybe a new student?
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Post by Dameon on Jul 2, 2004 17:26:18 GMT 11
Well, I'm more than halfway through my close corss-examination of Chamber of Secrets. So far, I've discovered nothing of use.
Here's what I've learnt:
Colin Creevey's father is a milkman and a muggle. He doesn't mention his mother.
Justin Finch-Fletchey (a Hufflepuff) is muggle-born, and nearly went to Eton.
Ernie McMillan (Who later becomes a Hufflepuff Prefect) is full-blood back at least nine generations
So it can't be Ernie or Justin. But it MIGHT be Colin. Still think it's Dean Thomas though. He's in Harry's dormitory, so he's peripheral without being TOO obscure. After I've read CoS, I'm going to read Philsopher's Stone again, and see if I can learn anything.
Guess I must be bored, huh?
KSL
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Post by Emerald on Jul 2, 2004 23:53:37 GMT 11
hehe - this is so exciting! I hope it's not a new character who is the prince... it would be so much more interesting if it were someone we knew... hey, what if it's not even a current character? as in someone like Griffindor - because CoS really did focus alot on the original "rulers" of Hogwarts... then again all of the things mentioned in the titles of the other books were physically in the story (philosophers stone, goblet of fire etc.) So it would have to be a decendant whose actually attending Hogwarts which leads me back to Dean! Dean is the heir of Griffindor! hmmmmmm  |
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Post by Seagull Fred on Jul 3, 2004 18:43:47 GMT 11
Y'know, I'm not half as interested in who the Half Blood Prince is as wot he does...does he know he's a prince? Even better, does he even know he's half-blood? Ahhh, the mysteries!!! Lauren |
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Post by Dameon on Jul 3, 2004 21:22:23 GMT 11
Well, I've finished CoS, and now I'm nearly through Philosopher's Stone. ANd I've learnt something interesting...
Dean Thomas appears to be entirely Muggleborn, but Seamus Finnigan...
He's a half blood. In Philosopher's Rowling throws us in halfway through a conversation, and Seamus says "I'm half and half..." and goes on to talk about how he has a muggle father and a witch mother!
The first time I read it carefully, I assumed this was just one example of the many different backgrounds of Hogwarts students. Now I know about the Half Blood Prince it makes sense that this is a very small clue to his identity.
I don't think it means a real Prince, either.
KSL
PS. I also noticed in Chapter 1 a brief reference to Sirius. Hagrid mentions that he borrowed the motorbike of "Young Sirius Black" which seems odd. Because Dumbledore must have thought at once "But Sirius was the Potter's Secret Keeper..." but he says nothing. Perhaps he keeps it to himself!
Also: Do you think we'll get to find out about Snape? What is it about him that Dumbeldore trusts? If Dumbledore trusts him, so do I. But what has he done, or what does Albus know that makes him so ASSURED of Snape's loyalty. You have to admit, he's pretty suss...
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Post by Megana on Jul 3, 2004 21:30:32 GMT 11
Snape's always been a bit of a mystery. But we all know that Dumbledore is an excellent judge of character, so if Dumbledore trusts him, so do I. But still.......it makes ya think. And you know, I don't even remember reading the Sirius reference in the first book! I really have to re-read them sometime soon. Sad to say, but I have only read them all once.
Seamus Finnigan. HE was the one in the movie that blew his eyebrows off! Now I remember. Hmmm, do you think it could be him? I also agree with Lauren - I wanna know what the prince is gonna do, and how he's important.
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Post by Dameon on Jul 3, 2004 21:31:42 GMT 11
Oooh!
Just reading the information at JKrowling.com again.
Dean Thomas be NOT pure blood...
Hmmm...
It could be him OR Seamus...
KSL
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Post by Megana on Jul 3, 2004 22:03:13 GMT 11
So we have two Gryfindor boys as suspects, huh? It could work. Like I said before, my money's on it being someone that we already know. Or maybe the new DADA, but I'm not as sure about that. Urgh! I don't wanna wait for it anymore! I need to know now!
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Post by talisha on Jul 4, 2004 23:23:04 GMT 11
My bet is a new character.... i think bobbi is suggesting that it's Hagrid, I think thats a possibility too.
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Post by Dameon on Jul 5, 2004 12:16:29 GMT 11
Kayt's Harry Potter theory:
Just finished PoA, and I've come to a conclusion...
DUMBLEDORE ALWAYS KNEW THAT SIRIUS WAS INNOCENT.
He says nothing when Hagrid mentions that he met Sirius in Godric's Hollow (the place Lily, James and Harry lived). And in PoA he seems very quick to believe Sirius' story. LUDICROUSLY quick, in fact. It seems clear to me that Dumbledore testified against Sirius because the evidence was so damning, but never really believed it, himself. He suspected the truth and knew Sirius couldn't have been the Potter's Secret Keeper, and knew he hadn't betrayed them. Whether he suspected Pettigrew, I'm not sure, but I think he at least suspected Sirius was innocent.
KSL
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Post by Dameon on Jul 5, 2004 15:33:56 GMT 11
Oh! and you know what else I'm waiting for in Books 6 and 7.
What's going to happen with Ron and Hermione??
Come on, Ron! Get your act together, boy!!!
KSL
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Post by talisha on Jul 5, 2004 16:07:00 GMT 11
.... Dumbledore thought that Sirius was the Potter's Secret Keeper, and don't forget that Dumbledore is a very powerful wizard and there is much we don't know about him. I think that as soon as he saw Sirius and heard of Peter, then he knew that Sirius was innocent.
And tell me about it! Ron is so clueless! HE should hurry up and make his move on Hermione before she looses interest.
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Post by Dameon on Jul 5, 2004 16:12:29 GMT 11
No, I think Dumbledore believed Sirius was the Potter's secret keeper up until the moment they died. He's such a good judge of character and he knows he is. I think he would have WANTED to believed Sirius innocent, and testified against him and all while still maintaining a lingering doubt about his guilt.
DUMBELDORE KNEW, I TELLS YA!!!
He might not have believed himself. You know how you sometimes think something is true and then you just say no, no, it's not true. I think it was like that. Part of Dumbledore believed Sirius innocent, and the logical bit believed him guilty. But Dumbeldore wanted to believe the innocence.
And poor Hermione. She should just make the move herself!
KSL
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Post by talisha on Jul 5, 2004 16:27:52 GMT 11
Hmm. I think Dumbledore wanted to believe that Sirius was innocent but didn't believe he was innocent.
And Hermione should make the move! I think she might... its more her character than Ron, he'd just beat around the bush until Hermione gets fed up with it and goes for it!
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Post by Dameon on Jul 5, 2004 16:31:04 GMT 11
Yes, poor old Hermione!! She should just go for it!
I think Mrs. Weasley knows what's going on there, though. She's no fool! Good old Mrs. Weasley!!!
KSL
PS. How do you think business is going for Fred and George? I just noticed on my current re-reading how absolutely awesome Fred and George are. They are among my very favourite characters now!
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Post by talisha on Jul 5, 2004 16:43:37 GMT 11
I LOVE Fred and George! haha or should I say Forge and Gred? they're so great!
I think their business is blooming! I think it says they're doing really well in bk5, they even have dragon skin jackets, if my memory serves me correctly.
They are so funny! Love 'em!
And you're right Mrs. Weasley knows what going on! I think that's part of the reason that she got so angry at Hermione for 'playing with Harry's heart' in bk 4, according to Skeeter anyway. Cause she knows that little Ronnie likes her.
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