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Post by Miska on Sept 12, 2004 17:14:39 GMT 11
ok you all are probably goin to get very sick of me today - if u arent already, but blah to that. this is linked with my other pole...when i said 'does being obernewtyn obsessed/dedicated create people with the same ideas as IC' is what im reffering to there... to make it more clear i was readin the paper and it has a huge article on teen queens and their infulence. now i cant remember there beign all that pressue to conform or immitate certain images while i was a young teen (im mainly referin to yrs 7-9, possibly 10). but i could quiet easily be wrong cos i lived in a daydream world most of the time. so i guess what im asking here is who were/are ppl influenced by during their early teens and why. is it authers and their views on life that are shown thru books? or is it the pop music culture? how bout films? maybe even your local cool-miss/mr-perfect-popular-girl/guy?
that last one was probably my down fall. i wanted to fit in and be cool, so i did everythin i could (which wasnt alot cos mum wouldnt let me:P-she did by my cloths) to look and act the part of a surf girl. major prob i hated/couldnt surf and thought nippers was a competitive waste of time. plus surf brand clothing was sooo expensive and boring (tho that is my wardrobe currently). hmmm i think fallin for surfy guys added to that...
so wat/how impressionalbe(sp?) are u all?!
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Post by Elspeth on Sept 12, 2004 17:25:26 GMT 11
I hated free-dress days at school because it seemed everyone was going to be wearing much cooler clothes than me and judging me by my own clothes. Everything seemed so much more intense at school. It wasn't 'til I grew up a little and finished school that I realised it doesn't really matter what other people think (except during job interviews and things like that, of course  ). Once I stopped worrying about what everything else was thinking of me, I started feeling much better about everything. I didn't always give in to peer pressure, though. There were a couple of times when my friends tried to get me to do things I didn't want to do, despite knowing me and my personality. Every time they tried to do that, my respect for them went down several notches. It was great to get out of school and meet up with people at uni who weren't constantly forcing me to be something I wasn't.  |
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Post by brydie on Sept 12, 2004 17:45:30 GMT 11
hahahahahaha
(sorry not laughin at u - im laughing at myself) i'm off in the world of fairy most of the time, i don't notice wat ppl wear!! i wear watever's comfortable to me. but i'm not really the type of person who would be pressured into doing something i dont want to do. i swear i am never EVER going to smoke, and i'll NEVER do anything that i dont want to do (including gardening) I'm reeally stubborn, and if i decide i dont want to do something, i wont do it. (then again, i promised myself i'd never be affected by miskas bad typing, and look whats happening to me!! at least i'm not too bad)
i rarely think about what other people think of me unless it's positive. but im definatelky not impressionable.
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Post by Miska on Sept 12, 2004 17:50:05 GMT 11
u no i only care wat ppl see me in now. but thats cos ive got a weight issue wit myself atm and dont think ppl should see me in wat i usually wear (ok did wear last summer) but blah...ill get over it once it gets hot...anyway..WOW brydie u go girl! thats so good to be like that...tho i kinda feel obernet ppl are strong minded and individual...tho im not gonna take any credit away from u!! cos htats jsut sooo good!
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Post by brydie on Sept 12, 2004 17:57:37 GMT 11
lol ok thats good then!! but yes, i have noticed that obernetters seem to be a little more strong minded...i dunno why though?? we all seem to be so different...maybe because we like misfits:D
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Post by Miska on Sept 12, 2004 18:10:33 GMT 11
well its a community of ppl who prob had to get over the 'nerd'/'bookworm' or weirdo stigma...so u no we're conditioned already 
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Post by Dameon on Sept 12, 2004 18:30:10 GMT 11
I was one of the deliberate non-comformists.
We went around doing what everyone else WASN'T doing.
It's kinda pathetic in it's own way!
KSL
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Post by Arien on Sept 12, 2004 18:54:06 GMT 11
ok, i put the sometimes one.. I'm not going to be pressured into doing something stupid i don't want to do, like smoke or go bungee jumping or something...and i'm not going to stop reading or doing something else i like to do just because people think it's nerdy or somehting. but i do care about what people think of me, and i do like keeping up with fashion and stuff but mostly because i like to do that. mmm, clothes.... |
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Post by Cat-Eyes on Sept 12, 2004 19:09:08 GMT 11
I haven't voted, cause I don't listen to them, but I don't go out an deliberately go against them either. Well, I do sometimes, but most of the time I just do what I want to do and if it happens to be the same as what they're doing, so be it, and if it's not, so be it.
Cat
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Post by Min on Sept 13, 2004 11:45:51 GMT 11
I'm with Buneater here, I felt like I was under a lot more pressure at school to rise to your friend's levels and - the classic - wear the right clothes to free dress days. Being out of school, travelling around on your own a bit, having your own house and car and responsibilities - it makes you more selfish to your own needs and wants, despite whatever else the world wants you to do. Though in high school, I'd fall to pressure from my closest friends - just because I trusted them completely. Now days I'm one of those annoying 'deliberately do the opposite' people again, depending on the circumstances. Spite is a funny thing... |
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Post by ~Ethereal~ on Sept 13, 2004 16:57:45 GMT 11
I went through phases. years 7-9 I really didnt care about what everyoen else thought. I did and wore what ever I felt good in. Which was often very different to what everyone else thought was cool. Books did influence me alot though,a nd my world view came alot from what I read. In year 10 I sorta tried to surpress my 'weirdness' for awhile and try and pretend I was normal jsut liek everyoen else. I never really did anythign I didnt want to, btu I sorta checked myself a bit. In year 11 and some of 12 I set abotu deliberately doing what everyoen else wasnt. But I've finally a middle ground and now I jsut do and think what I want whether it's somethign everyone is doing or no one is doing. Took me a long time to learn that lesson though. It's so good that you're that way already Brydie |
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Post by Rilla on Sept 13, 2004 17:31:01 GMT 11
People or constantly telling me i'm weird. I like being weird ;D I'm the type of person that will start singing a really stupid song just coz everything was too quiet. Sometimes i get really self-conscious but usually i don't care what other people think. Da dada di da da di dada di daaaa...  You have to Accentuate the postive eliminate the negative Latch on to the affirmative Don't mess with Mr Inbetween! |
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Post by Arien on Sept 13, 2004 22:30:32 GMT 11
hehehe! Go Rilla!! WE'RE WEIRD AND PROUD! ;D |
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Post by Miska on Sept 13, 2004 22:37:23 GMT 11
weird is wonderful...and so beautiful!
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Post by Raineth on Sept 16, 2004 15:15:42 GMT 11
I moved to a different school in year 9 where the people were really xenophobic. I had come from a fairly way out school and had the time of my life the first year shocking everybody by wearing strange clothes and doing strange things and most shocking of all, spreading a rumour that I was a lesbian. But by the second year their I was bored and was totally sick of how judgemental they were, so I went to boarding school and to my amazement fitted in just fine!
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Post by Rilla on Sept 16, 2004 17:23:58 GMT 11
I'm weird, but adults say i'm mature. Is it possible to be weird and mature at the same time?  Some times i go out of my way to "not follow the crowd". When Harry Potter first came out and everyone was raving about it i didn't read it. Until my sister got it for her birthday... Yes. Ok. I know i can (i know i can) Be what i wanna be (be what i wanna be) If i work hard at it (if i work hard at it) I'll be where i wanna be (i'll be where i wanna be) |
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Post by HeartoftheDarkness on Sept 19, 2004 18:48:16 GMT 11
im a goth punk, so i go out of my way to look different. ive been called a freak, weird, bookworm and all that crap before, and it doesn't bug me. i treat it as a game. The rules are, try and get people to stare at you(double takes kick ass), try and get them to call stuff out, and never, never let it get to you. Life would be boring if you just follow the crowd and did what everyone else told you to do
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Post by talisha on Sept 20, 2004 0:32:34 GMT 11
I quite honestly do my own thing. I think I'm the only one in my entire friendship group that doesnt feel the need to do things because other people do, actually no, i have one other friend that doesnt do what others want them to either, but i dont go out of my way to do things that others arent doing.
Like some days, I'll just decide to sit on the ground in the middle of the court yard, and one of the great things about my school is that pretty much nobody cares.
My school is a non-uniform school, so i just wear whatever, i dont care if its cool or not. I have a'snow patrol' jumper that is so dorky but i love it cause it has little duckies with sparklie shoes... ok getting carried away but i think you see my point. On friday a 'friend' who i despise was sitting next to me, and we were talking and she came about saying, 'well you are the girl who wears a snow patrol jumper, just cause shes a snob... but anyway, i just dont really care what people think.
I am my own person and proud of it.
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Post by HeartoftheDarkness on Sept 20, 2004 1:01:57 GMT 11
w00t talisha!!!!
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Post by Marija on Sept 20, 2004 22:03:31 GMT 11
Talking about highschool would take too long so I shall share with you all a little story that happened to me recently. I was playing LOtR on my lil bros gameboy on the train to uni one day and these kids came on and started commenting about this "old lady" playing a gameboy  Lol!! I was trying so hard not to laugh =P It was interesting to notice how out of place I must have looked (a 20yr old with a gameboy) but meh, I didn't care =P And besides... I was about to finish the game with Gandalf! =P Although having said that, I think that as you grow and become the person you want to be then you can fight having to conform to social norms. It just takes longer for some people to start the growning process and it is, I think, a process which continues throughout our life. Also, conformity is highly understanble as people will generally like others that are similar to them so when you feel a little new and alone, you will tend to conform somewhat to be liked. Or if not liked, then at least left alone. |
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Post by Elspeth on Sept 20, 2004 23:30:12 GMT 11
...I think that as you grow and become the person you want to be then you can fight having to conform to social norms. It just takes longer for some people to start the growning process and it is, I think, a process which continues throughout our life... Absolutely, Maria! The freedom and relief of growing up and discovering that you can do what you want is just so liberating! At school, I was desperate to appear normal, whereas now I tend to pride myself on being a little odd - a little old-fashioned, perhaps. But I don't care what other people think. The important thing is how I feel and if I feel good, then it must be OK. |
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Post by Rilla on Sept 21, 2004 13:30:12 GMT 11
Go us individuals!
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Post by Monster on Sept 28, 2004 4:40:53 GMT 11
i didn't have too much of a problem with conforming as i fell in wth a strange crowd and usually wear shirts and jeans as they are comfortable. they area also normal enough and can easilly be bought cheap or second hand. also their is less of an interest in trademarks. i was a strange person(but we prefer to be called freaks or beforetime misfits) but since i'm a nice guy most of the scumbags at my school left me alone. guys accept me for what i am because i can beat them within inches of their lives girls accept me for what i am because i am a polite and well spoken kind of dude :DMISFITS FOREVER remember our differences make us real |
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Post by Miska on Sept 28, 2004 10:19:26 GMT 11
that is so true omegadefender..and its good ot see it from a guys p[oint... i always thought guys were more individual then women...but now im not sure - im a little confused wit it...but meh... good to see everyone so mature and unique!!!!!!!!! its sooooo great!
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Lol!! I was trying so hard not to laugh =P It was interesting to notice how out of place I must have looked (a 20yr old with a gameboy) but meh, I didn't care =P And besides... I was about to finish the game with Gandalf! =P