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Post by Kaylan-R on Oct 3, 2006 15:04:05 GMT 11
Ok....does anyone else think this is really wierd?
Don't you reckon this makes you wanna say stupid queesnland - ders!
Ok, I'll get onto it. The Queensland labour parties Tree Of Knowledge was poisoned and they got people to say that it was "officially" dead, and now they're having a momorial for it. Is it just me, or doesn anyone else think it's stupid to have a memorial service for a tree?? A TREE?? I mean, what are people going to say? It's a tree!! You cam't say words about it like when you do at someone's funeral.
Hmm.....I think this shows the true intellectual of the queensland government!
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Post by Dark One on Oct 4, 2006 4:31:02 GMT 11
Just for us non-aussies, was there anything special about this tree?
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Post by Elspeth on Oct 5, 2006 23:59:08 GMT 11
Don't worry, Dark One. I'm an Aussie and I have no idea what it's about either.  |
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Post by Dark One on Oct 6, 2006 2:34:28 GMT 11
Lol! Thats good then. Glad its not just me!
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Post by Lina on Oct 6, 2006 9:31:31 GMT 11
Well Dark One, apparently the first labour party leaders back in x 1800's or something first met under that tree. Since then labour party leaders have been going there to meet... I don't know search for inspiration or something, but alas, someone poisoned it so it's now died - and now they are all having a cry and giving a memorial to it.
I agree, tis a bit strange to give a memorial to a tree... it's not like it's not there anymore... it just doesn't have leaves. They were saying that 'We've lost a historical landmark, people come to our town to see the tree' etc.
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Post by Dameon on Oct 6, 2006 11:45:10 GMT 11
It makes sense to me. It's sad. It means something to them, and it has sentimental value and now it's dead. It may not mean something to you, but that's not the point.
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Post by Min on Oct 6, 2006 12:54:46 GMT 11
Well Dark One, apparently the first labour party leaders back in x 1800's or something first met under that tree. Since then labour party leaders have been going there to meet... I don't know search for inspiration or something, but alas, someone poisoned it so it's now died - and now they are all having a cry and giving a memorial to it. Wow...really?? I had no idea about it. (The reason everyone else is prolly confused is because it sounds like a State Govt thing...only applies to QLDers) I dunno about scoffing either...I mean, think about it. Someone maliciously went and poisoned it. It wasn't natural, or an accident. Some coward, rather than come out in the open or actually do something constructive about their frustration with the QLD government went and poisoned a tree. Gee, they must feel tough. (sorry for the rant, not that I really care that it effects the politicians, but it just reminds me of this time last year when some similar coward went and stole my VL and burnt it to the ground, for no good reason. Senseless vandalism isn't funny, especially for anyone who had a connection with it...) |
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Post by Arctic Firefox on Oct 6, 2006 16:22:23 GMT 11
*no one is surprised to see AF on this thread*[rant] It certainly is a disgraceful act of vandalism, but from another angle it's rather symbolic as well. Symbolic of the death of Labor as a progressive force in Australian politics. Symbolic of how Labor have betrayed the environment countless times and continue to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if the poisoning was done by a disgruntled Labor supporter. [/rant] GO GREENS! 
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Post by Lina on Oct 6, 2006 19:41:44 GMT 11
Don't get me wrong! I don't condone what they did - vandalism always gets me annoyed - why bother doing it honestly! Poisoning a tree is a rather weird way of vandalising... but in any case it is bad.
Min... I have to ask what is VL?
AF - that is a rather interesting turn on the event... I hadn't thought of it that way before. I mean yes it is sad that it is dead... but I guess a part of me doesn't believe it is truely dead.
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Post by Elspeth on Oct 6, 2006 23:17:33 GMT 11
Couldn't they take a branch from the tree and propagate it, thereby growing a new Tree of Knowledge from the original? Or was it too badly poisoned for that? It seems like a shame to lose such a symbolic thing. Min... I have to ask what is VL? I'm sure Min will elaborate but in the meantime, I'll simply say that a VL is a car. |
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Post by Dark One on Oct 7, 2006 0:29:56 GMT 11
I think it was a Holden VL Commodore that Min was referring to: VLSomeone stole it and burnt it out after she'd just spent lots of money on it. There's a thread about it all on here somewhere. However, i've just done a wuick search and i can't find it. Sorry |
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Post by Kaylan-R on Oct 7, 2006 17:21:10 GMT 11
I dunno about scoffing either...I mean, think about it. Someone maliciously went and poisoned it. It wasn't natural, or an accident. Some coward, rather than come out in the open or actually do something constructive about their frustration with the QLD government went and poisoned a tree. Gee, they must feel tough. I don't agree about someone poisoning it...I just think they took the whole ceremony stuff too far. And I only scoffed because I thought it seemed rather pointless. They could of had a plaque or noted the date, or something like that, but the whole "offically dead" thing is wierd. And i think it's rather odd that if this tree is so special, then why haven't I heard of it and I've been living here for five years. |
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Post by AbhorsenVictoria on Oct 7, 2006 20:36:02 GMT 11
Perhaps nobody REALLY cares for this tree except the Labour party. I'm sure there are better ways to sabotage a government though. Is Queensland the state with only one house? SOmeone mentioned its apparently flawed government the other day but i dont remember whether it was Queensland or not. Apparently my state was named next to some old dead gum tree and they still hold the Proclamation Day ceremony next to it and everything but ive lived in SA all of my life and i never knew about it. Im sure they didnt have a big cry when it died, although im pretty sure nobody deliberately killed it.
Hmmm poor tree...........................................................................Vic
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Post by Cookie Lover on Oct 7, 2006 22:21:40 GMT 11
Well, I say let them have their ceremony. If somethings important, there should be some sort of thing held when it leaves, or dies, or whatever. A tree is a living thing, and people hold funerals for their pets. I have. A memorial ceremony for a national tree sounds fine to me.
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Post by Arctic Firefox on Oct 8, 2006 1:58:42 GMT 11
To begin with, the tree would only be known within the Labor party, and then not necessarily everyone there would know it either. Case in point, the Victorian Greens was founded beneath a tree in the Edinburgh Gardens because there was a mess-up with the hall they were suppose to book, but I have no idea where that tree is, and neither will the vast majority of our members.
So I have no problem with the ALP holding a memorial service, though I would argue it's not their tree because it would be on public land (I think), and therefore belongs to everyone.
Ah, but all governments are flawed to an extent. Especially under the hegemonic system we have in place today. Liberal government or Labor government - that's your choice, and it isn't an appealing one by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by Min on Oct 10, 2006 14:49:06 GMT 11
To begin with, the tree would only be known within the Labor party, and then not necessarily everyone there would know it either. Case in point, the Victorian Greens was founded beneath a tree in the Edinburgh Gardens because there was a mess-up with the hall they were suppose to book, but I have no idea where that tree is, and neither will the vast majority of our members. ...makes you wonder who poisoned it then, if no one else knew about it but the party itself? And yes, I was talking about my old car...sorry, any act of random vandolism always reminds me about it. |
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Post by Lina on Oct 10, 2006 18:23:25 GMT 11
 I'm shocked that people can be like that - okay maybe not THAT shocked, more dissappointed that people can be so cruel and thoughtless. |
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Post by Kaylan-R on Oct 10, 2006 21:15:08 GMT 11
...makes you wonder who poisoned it then, if no one else knew about it but the party itself? |
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Post by MajiKat on Oct 21, 2006 23:37:22 GMT 11
i think its perfectly fine to hold a memorial service for a tree, because its not exactly the tree that is being thought of as dead - it is what the tree symbolised to the party.
and the fact that someone poisoned it does not surprise me at all - i am fast becomming extremely disillusioned with humanity...before i was just disillusioned, but now...i don;t think i shall watch the news any more.
and as a follower of a nature religion - how dare someone kill a tree like that for no particular reason! what did that tree ever do to them? if it was a political action, its garbage. did that tree choose to be the tree of the Qld ALP? grrrr
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Post by Tanya on Nov 22, 2006 18:04:44 GMT 11
and as a follower of a nature religion - how dare someone kill a tree like that for no particular reason! what did that tree ever do to them? if it was a political action, its garbage. did that tree choose to be the tree of the Qld ALP? grrrr *Seconds that wholeheartedly* The poor trees just happily growing away whem a bunch of people start coming and having meetings under it, then for no apparent reason someone comes along and poisons it. Personally I couldn't give a stuff that they lost their 'tree of knowledge'. I just feel for the tree. |
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I'm shocked that people can be like that - okay maybe not THAT shocked, more dissappointed that people can be so cruel and thoughtless.
