Guild Talents

[Ashta]

Okay, well this has always facinated me, what is the specific Talent of each guild here at Ober.net? I'm a little concerned that the ashings and dreamweavers have similar talents, but I'm completely oblvivious to what wandies and mystics think their talent is!

Anyway, at the dreamweaver's guild site, we have a little description of what we think our talent is (well, I wrote it, people concured)

The skill of the Dreamweavers is not an individual trait. It is based on a theory of a group mind, which then becomes a vessel for navigating the seas of the collective consciousness. The group mind is led by dominant personalties who through a technique termed ‘weaving’ they use the stars (bright paths lit by important points that are permanently imprinted in the collective consciousness such as historical events or influential people or situations to which many people have witness) to thread their path to a distant shore. The shore is their aim, and yet through all their research and philosophising, they can only guess to what this ‘shore’ may be.

The Dreamweaver guild is a vessel. Its members are the navigators, the attendants and workman aboard it. They all weave a connection to the stars, traverse the waters of the collective consciousness and touch the depths of the soul through the dreams of others. Through these abilities they become aware of people who are in trouble, and weave their dreams to make them brighter and stronger. Dreamweavers work at the very basis of the human mind, ever changing people through their dreams and propelling the course of humanity toward some fabled distant shore.

Please, other guilds, post your ideas here! I would love to see a general outline of what each guilds defined talent is! ;D

Luv ya all!
Ashta

[Miska]

ive been reading that talents thread of urs and really wanting the mystics to do the same...but no ones been to our boards nad hmmm we're still a little sleepy on that part...but from wat i could gather we are the studious type...constantly working on our crystals -which are found in the den and contain msytical/magical powers. so we're really tecknoguild-ish in my mind...tho i really like the DW's idea about defining their tallent...mystics!? what do we all think?!

[Rilla]

*has a mental blank* I have no idea what the wanderers are

[talisha]

i would like to think that we travel far and wide, gathering bits of information and life's wonders while we explore.

we what our name means; wanderers.

i dont really know.. that was just a stab in the dark really.

[Miska]

yes i think the dreamweavers have bin the only organised ones in this matter!

[Dameon]

I identify the Wandies with the Farseekers a little. I think they are the explorers of Obernet. But I will ask the other Wandies!

I will insist they come up with something. And if no one says anything, then Talisha, Rilla, Brydie, Tammy and I can decide for ourselves!

lol!

KSL

[brydie]

hmmmm...i wouldnt say the farseekers so much as the teknoguilders, actually, because i see the teknoguilders as wandering through the fallen lifetimes of the past...this deserves a poetic moment but im not in a poetic mood. but then i can see what you mean about them being farseekers, and i'd rather them than the teknoguilders. basically my point is that i have no idea what my point is. im in dire need of sleep.

[talisha]

i dont see us as technoguilders at all

i'll come back when i have more of an idea what we might be about, all i can think of it what i said last time and that didnt really make sense

[brydie]

ok, ive decided that the wanderers and futuretellers go hand in hand, because i had a dream last night...sorry, a little off the topic, but it just reminded me of this thread and it made me think about it a bit more.
i say the wanderers are futuretellers, not because of seeing the future, but because i see the futuretellers as wandering the paths of time - the dreamtrails - and when they are off in trances, it's as though they've gone off wandering, just not in a physical sense...

also, i was looking through our photo albums the other day and i found something interesting. in sydney, in the city somewhere near the opera house i think, there are these gold circles on the ground with the names of people who have contributed to the soceity in some way or something, and a little biography with it. when we were in sydney we took a photo of one, which happened to be about a relative of mine (we shall call him Peter3) who was a poet. but on the cirlce thing it had a snippet of one of the poems he wrote, called 'The Wanderer'. i couldn't find it in full on the internet, but this is the little bit on the photo:

'...I know I am
The wanderer of the ways of all the worlds,
to whom the sunshine and the rain are one
and one to stay or hasten, because he knows
no ending of the way, no home, no goal...'

i want to find the rest of the poem!! argh!!!

[brydie]

five seconds later: i found it!!!
ummmm...it's a bit long....
The Wanderer
When window-lamps had dwindled, then I rose
and left the town behind me; and on my way
passing a certain door I stopt, remembering
how once I stood on its threshold, and my life
was offer'd to me, a road how different
from that of the years since gone! and I had but
to rejoin an olden path, once dear, since left.
All night I have walk'd and my heart was deep awake,
remembering ways I dream'd and that I chose,
remembering luridly, and was not sad,
being brimm'd with all the liquid and clear dark
of the night that was not stirr'd with any tide;
for leaves were silent and the road gleam'd pale,
following the ridge, and I was alone with night.
But now 1 am come among the rougher hills
and grow aware of the sea that somewhere near
is restless; and the flood of night is thinn'd
and stars are whitening. 0, what horrible dawn
will bare me the way and crude lumps of the hills
and the homeless concave of the day, and bare
the ever-restless, ever-complaining sea?

*

Each day I see the long ships coming into port
and the people crowding to their rail, glad of the shore:
because to have been alone with the sea and not to have known
of anything happening in any crowded way,
and to have heard no other voice than the crooning sea's
has charmed away the old rancours, and the great winds
have search'd and swept their hearts of the old irksome thoughts:
so, to their freshen'd gaze, each land smiles a good home.
Why envy I, seeing them made gay to greet the shore?
Surely I do not foolishly desire to go
hither and thither upon the earth and grow weary
with seeing many lands and peoples and the sea:
but if I might, some day, landing I reck not where
have heart to find a welcome and perchance a rest,
I would spread the sail to any wandering wind of the air
this night, when waves are hard and rain blots out the land.

*

I am driven everywhere from a clinging home,
0 autumn eves! and I ween'd that you would yet
have made, when your smouldering dwindled to odorous fume,
close room for my heart, where I might crouch and dream
of days and ways I had trod, and look with regret
on the darkening homes of men and the window-gleam,
and forget the morrows that threat and the unknown way.
But a bitter wind came out of the yellow-pale west
and my heart is shaken and fill'd with its triumphing cry:
You shall find neither home nor rest: for ever you roam
with stars as they drift and wilful fates of the sky!

*

0 tame heart, and why are you weary and cannot rest?
here is the hearth with its glow and the roof that forbids the rain,
a swept and a garnish'd quiet, a peace: and were you not fain
to be gather'd in dusk and comfort and barter away the rest ?

And is your dream now of riding away from a stricken field
on a lost and baleful eve, when the world went out in rain,
one of some few that rode evermore by the bridle-rein
of a great beloved chief, with high heart never to yield?

Was that you? and you ween you are back in your life of old
when you dealt as your pride allow'd and reck'd not of other rein?
Nay, tame heart, be not idle: it is but the ardent rain
that minds you of manhood foregone and the perilous joy of the bold.

[brydie]

*
Once I could sit by the fire hourlong when the dripping caves
sang cheer to the shelterd, and listen, and know that the woods drank fig
and think of the mom that was coming and how the freshen'd leaves
would glint in the sun and the dusk beneath would be bright and cool.

Now, when I hear, I am cold within: for my mind drifts wide
where the blessing is shed for naught on the salt waste of the sea,
on the valleys that hold no rest and the hills that may not abide:
and the fire loses its warmth and my home is far from me.

*

How old is my heart, how old, how old is my heart,
and did 1 ever go forth with song when the morn was new?
I seem to have trod on many ways: I seem to have left
I know not how many homes; and to leave each
was still to leave a portion of mine own heart,
of my old heart whose life I had spent to make that home
and all I had was regret, and a memory.
So I sit and muse in this wayside harbour and wait
till I hear the gathering cry of the ancient winds and again
I must up and out and leave the embers of the hearth
to crumble silently into white ash and dust,
and see the road stretch bare and pale before me: again
my garment and my home shall be the enveloping winds
and my heart be fill'd wholly with their old pitiless cry.

*

I sorrow for youth - ah, not for its wildness (would that were dead!)
but for those soft nests of time that enticed the maiden bloom
of delight and tenderness to break in delicate air
- 0 her eyes in the rosy face that bent over our first babe!
but all that was, and is gone, and shall be all forgotten;
it fades and wanes even now: and who is there cares but I?
and I grieve for my heart that is old and cannot cease from regret.
Ay, might our harms be haven'd in some deathless heart:
but where have I felt its over-brooding luminous tent
save in those eyes of delight (and ah! that they must change)
and of yore in her eyes to whom we ran with our childish joy?
0 brother! if such there were and each of us might lead each
to lean above the little pools where all our heart
lies spilt and clear and shining along the dusky way,
and dream of one that could save it all and salve our ache!

*

You, at whose table I have sat, some distant eve
beside the road, and eaten and you pitied me
to be driven an aimless way before the pitiless winds,
how much ye have given and knew not, pitying foolishly!
For not alone the bread I broke, but I tasted too
all your unwitting lives and knew the narrow soul
that bodies it in the landmarks of your fields,
and broods dumbly within your little season:? round,
where, after sowing, comes the short-lived sunune?s mirth,
and, after harvesting, the winter's lingering dream,
half memory and,regret, half hope, crouching beside
the hearth that is your only centre of life and dream.
And knowing the world how limitless and the way how long,
and, the home of man how feeble and builded on the winds,
I have lived your life, that eve, as you might never live
knowing, and pity you, if you should come to know.

*

I cry to you as I pass your windows in the dusk;

Ye have built you unmysterious homes and ways in the wood
where of old ye went with sudden eyes to the right and left;
and your going was now made safe and your staying comforted,
for the forest edge itself, holding old savagery
in unsearch'd glooms, was your houses' friendly barrier.
And now that the year goes winterward, ye thought to hide
behind your gleaming panes, and where the hearth sings merrily
make cheer with meat and wine, and sleep in the long night,
and the uncared wastes might be a crying unhappiness.
But I, who have come from the outer night, I say to you
the winds are up and terribly will they shake the dry wood:
the woods shall awake, hearing them, shall awake to be toss'd and riven,
and make a cry and a parting in your sleep all night
as the wither'd leaves go whirling all night along all ways.
And when ye come forth at dawn, uncomforted by sleep,
ye shall stand at amaze, beholding all the ways overhidden
with worthless drift of the dead and all your broken world:
and ye shall not know whence the winds have come, nor shall ye know
whither the yesterdays have fled, or if they were.

*

Come out, come out, ye souls that serve, why will ye die?
or will ye sit and stifle in your prison-homes
dreaming of some master that holds the winds in leash
and the waves of darkness yonder in the gaunt hollow of night?
nay, there is none that rules: all is a strife of the winds
and the night shall billow in storm full oft ere all be done.
For this is the hard doom that is laid on all of you,
to be that whereof ye dream, dreaming against your will.
But first ye must travel the many ways, and your close-wrapt souls
must be blown thro' with the rain that comes from the homeless dark:
for until ye have had care of the wastes there shall be no truce
for them nor you, nor home, but ever the ancient feud;
and the soul of man must house the cry of the darkling waves
as he follows the ridge above the waters shuddering towards night,
and the rains and the winds that roam anhunger'd for some heart's warmth.
Go: tho' ye find it bitter, yet must ye be bare
to the wind and the sea and the night and the wail of birds in the sky;
go: tho' the going be hard and the goal blinded with rain
yet the staying is a death that is never soften'd with sleep.

*

Dawns of the world, how I have known you all,
so many, and so varied, and the same!
dawns o'er the timid plains, or in the folds
of the arm'd hills, or by the unsleeping shore;
a chill touch on the chill flesh of the dark
that, shuddering, shrinks from its couch, and leaves
a homeless light, staring, disconsolate,
on the drear world it knows too well, the world
it fled and finds again, its wistful hope
unmet by any miracle of night,
that mocks it rather, with its shreds that hang
about the woods and huddled bulks of gloom
that crouch, malicious, in the broken combes,
witness to foulnesses else unreveal'd
that visit earth and violate her dreams
in the lone hours when only evil wakes.

*

What is there with you and me, that I may not forget
but your white shapes come crowding noiselessly in my nights,
making my sleep a flight from a thousand beckoning hands?
Was it not enough that your cry dwelt in my waking ears
that now, seeking oblivion, I must yet be haunted
by each black maw of hunger that yawns despairingly
a moment ere its whitening frenzy bury it?
0 waves of all the seas, would I could give you peace
and find my peace again: for all my peace is fled
and broken and blown along your white delirious crests!

*

0 desolate eves along the way, how oft,
despite your bitterness, was I warm at heart!
not with the glow of rememberd hearths, but warm
with the solitary unquenchable fire that bums
a flameless heat deep in his heart who has come
where the formless winds plunge and exult for aye
among the naked spaces of the world,
far past the circle of the ruddy hearths
and all their memories. Desperate eves,
when the wind-bitten hills tum'd violet
along their rims, and the earth huddled her heat
within her niggard bosom, and the dead stones
lay battle-strewn before the iron wind
that, blowing from the chill west, made all its way
a loneliness to yield its triumph room;
yet in that wind a clamour of trumpets rang,
old trumpets, resolute, stark, undauntable,
singing to battle against the eternal foe,
the wronger of this world, and all his powers
in some last fight, foredoom'd disastrous,
upon the final ridges of the world:
a war-wom note, stem fire in the stricken eve,
and fire thro' all my ancient heart, that sprang
towards that last hope of a glory won in defeat,
whence, knowing not sure if such high grace befall
at the end, yet I draw courage to front the way.

*

The land I came thro' last was dumb with night,
a limbo of defeated glory, a ghost:
for wreck of constellations flickerd perishing
scarce sustained in the mortuary air,
and on the ground and out of livid pools
wreck of old swords and crowns glimmer'd at whiles;
I seem'd at home in some old dream of kingship:
now it is clear grey day and the road is plain,
I am the wanderer of many years
who cannot tell if ever he was king
or if ever kingdoms were: I know I am
the wanderer of the ways of all the worlds,
to whom the sunshine and the rain are one
and one to stay or hasten, because he knows
no ending of the way, no home, no goal,
and phantom night and the grey day alike
withhold the heart where all my dreams and days
might faint in soft fire and delicious death:
and saying this to myself as a simple thing
I feel a peace fall in the heart of the winds
and a clear dusk settle, somewhere, far in me.




yes.
the little bit i posted first is in the very last verse.

[Rilla]

Oh Brydie! That was wonderful!

I reckon wanderers be farseekers...

[Lix]

actually we mystics discussed this on our old bravenet boards 5 years ago i cant remember the response because i didnt really like it ask min, she might know

[Min]

right...can't remember. Probably along the lines of Teknoguilders - hence Kim turning the web site into the Cavern? Not sure...

*gets back to her glow-moth study*

[Elspethseeker]

Well miska and i dicussed the idea of our guild talent and i said that maybe if our mystic crystals were our thing (most likely so far) that we develop the crystals and have guilds withen guilds. in a sense like the coecer knights but not in a negativly divived way. like one guild has crystals with special abilities that do one thing like enhancing brain power. it seems a little off, the idea, though.

[Min]

ooh sounds cool. Crystals can be used to channel powers then? So the Mystics guild accepts everyone, it doesn't base it's selection criteria on being good at a specific talent...

The crystal thingo reminds me a lot of people who use crystals for healing already...
Sounds great anyway! I still maintain that our cavern-ness has something to do with Teknoguilding though

*studies crystal*

[Elspethseeker]

Ooo okay well the teknoguild takes anyine they just aren't strong in talents they have a wide variety but they just mainly like to experiment! So it works! ;D

[Clare]

We did a survey ages ago in the Wanderers for which guild we mostly closely corresponded with. Farseekers was by far and away the most popular choice, followed by Empaths or Healers.

A very unupdated version of some of the responses
wanderers.port5.com/wanderers.html



P.S Can I nick that Wanderers poem for our site?

[Min]

nah Elfseeker, the Teknoguild does have a talent - it's machine empathy and telekinesis. So they can move objects at will using their mind (that would be SO cool) and can get their minds into machines and figure out how to use them.
Grunky stuff.

[Rilla]

I remember doing that survey! that was aaaaaaaaaages ago! But i still agree that we be farseekers...

[Tammy]

I agree with Farseekers for us Wanderers. I don't know but I've always thought of us like that hey!

How many Wanderers are there out here that post regularly? I feel bad I havn't visited our board for soooooooooo long! I don't think it lets me post there nemore neway! ne1 else have that problem?

[Miska]

Min said:

nah Elfseeker, the Teknoguild does have a talent - it's machine empathy and telekinesis. So they can move objects at will using their mind (that would be SO cool) and can get their minds into machines and figure out how to use them.
Grunky stuff.

agreed min!!! and my thoughts were the crystals were our 'tool' to do all that with (coming into a mystic feild)...but that was jsut me:P

[brydie]

Clare said:

P.S Can I nick that Wanderers poem for our site?

hmmm...you could, but would you have to acknowledge the author?? i'll PM you with his name, but bear in mind he's a relative of mine - a dead one - but he has the same surname as me...

[Rilla]

Tammy said:

I agree with Farseekers for us Wanderers. I don't know but I've always thought of us like that hey!

How many Wanderers are there out here that post regularly? I feel bad I havn't visited our board for soooooooooo long! I don't think it lets me post there nemore neway! ne1 else have that problem?

On the old their probably only me, miska, omega and megana. It gets quite boring...

[Clare]

Lol.... there's only so many messageboards one needs to blather on. I think the amount of stuff that gets posted on proboards more than compensates for the lack of action on the old wandie board.

As for the Grand Silence of the Wanderers - it's exam time... things will start picking up after November.